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Heneage Finch, 5th Earl of Winchilsea, Wye

Heneage Finch - unknown recipient - 1700-10-14
FINA IDUnique ID of the page  16458
InstitutionName of Institution. London, British Library
InventoryInventory number. Add MS 17301, ff.32-3
AuthorAuthor of the document. Heneage Finch, 5th Earl of Winchilsea
RecipientRecipient of the correspondence.
Correspondence dateDate when the correspondence was written: day - month - year . October 14, 1700
PlacePlace of publication of the book, composition of the document or institution. Wye 52° 5' 21.62" N, 2° 58' 4.01" W
Associated personsNames of Persons who are mentioned in the annotation. John Evelyn, Thomas Herbert, Thomas Thynne, 1st Viscount Weymouth, Gilbert Burnet, William Courten, John Battely
LiteratureReference to literature. Evelyn 16971, Nichols 1817-1858, vol. 4, pp. 95-62, Mackenzie 18523, Smyth 1856, pp. 273-44, Burnett 2020b, pp. 1031-2, 1021-25
KeywordNumismatic Keywords  Numismatic Skill , Medal , Gold , Antoninus Pius , Medallion , Faustina , Galba , Greek , Roman Provincial , Roman , Ptolemy , Augustus , Marcellus , Domitian , Licinius
LanguageLanguage of the correspondence English
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'I have for some-time design’d communicating to you a surprising account (at least itt is so to me) of some Medalls, wch my Lord Weymouth purchaced last winter in town; not knowing what credit to give to what I had heard of them, I wrote to my Lord, and had the following account– Two amongst them the most remarkable are these. A Medal of gold (weighing above twenty two ounces, the gold worth 5 ll. pr Ounce) of Joannes Palaeologus, Emp: of Constantinople; on the Reverse is written Opus Pisani Pictoris. This I believe you will allow may probably be a true one, Pisanll being famous for having engraved very large [ones?] of several great persons, & particularly one of that Emperour; besides that, my Lord assures me itt is not cast, and is of the finest gold, and not being very ancient, itt might easily be preserved. But that which startled me, was the account of an Antoninus, whose Diameter is 4 inches, half an inch and a 20th part of an inch; weighing 21 ounces 12 pennyweights at 4 ll. 10 s. per ounce. On one side are the heads of Antoninus and his Empresse Faustina; on the other, Cybele in a Chariot drawn by Lyons; in the exergue, AETENITAS AETERNITAS. My Lord sais that besides their being of so extraordinary a size, and of the finest gold, that of Antoninus & Faustina is most exquisitely stamp’d; the other by Pisani, rude in comparison of the former. He sais that my Lord Pembrook, who is the best judge he knows, examin’d them nicely, and declared he saw no marks of spuriousnesse; that they were certainly struck not cast, and concluded itt was not worth any one’s labour to counterfeit Medalls of that Metal and Value, for the bare keeping them 7 years would make the Author a loser. My Lord sais he agreed with me, that the size might make itt doubtful, having never read of any so large. Whose they were, he knows not, the Person who sold them being enjoyn’d secrecy; but he guesseth they come out of some great Cabinett. He bought att the same time above 40 more Gold Medalls, the finest and best preserv’d he ever saw, both ancient and modern, as of Galba, Ptolomy, Augustus, Marcellus, Domitian, Licinius, and many of the Greek Emperours. These are certainly a noble addition to my Lord’s Collection, though I know not yett what to think of his Antoninus; much is said of itt, my Lord Pembrook understands them very well, as does my Lord Weymouth; yett its bulk makes itt almost incredible that it should be ancient for where can itt have been so well preserved, and conceald. Mr. Evelin in his Book of Medals reminds me of a passage in Dr Burnett’s Letters, of his Travels in Germany ... [description of the finding of ‘a Cart-Load of Gold Imperiall Medalls’, some weighing ‘two pounds’ and of ‘rude manner of their sculpture’ and whose authenticity was discussed. Finch’s view is that they were perhaps made by ‘some Prince in Confederacy with or Tributary to the Romans.] And I should be apt to think my Lord Weymouths was one of these if I did not find itt described to be admirably engraved. – I should not have troubled you with my conjectures, which will but shew my ignorance; yett I could not but give you an account of them medals; for I think there is something curious, even in the bare description of them, from wch I doubt not but you will be able to judge especially if the Antoninus whether the Antoninus be true or false. [Goes on to offer ‘a parcel of such trash’, which ‘are all the duplicates I have met with since I saw you’, and adds descriptions, as recompense for troubling him, hoping that some may be tolerable’.]' (Nichols 1817-1858, vol. 4, pp. 95-6; Mackenzie 1852; Smyth 1856, pp. 273-4; Burnett 2020b, pp. 1031-2, 1021-2. Transcription as per Burnett 2020b, pp. 1031-2)

RemarksRemarks regarding the annotation. (en)

'Nichols read the date as 14 May 1702, and said that the addressee was Archdeacon Battely, but there is no addressee on the letter. As for the date, as Mackenzie says, it ‘is partly mutilated, so that it is impossible to tell the precise year in which it was written’: but 14 October seems certain, and the year is 170x, with 1700 as the most likely reading. Smyth read it as ‘2 October 1700’, but he does not seem reliable. Mackenzie, followed by the BL catalogue, identified the writer as John Finch, but the initial looks like an ‘H’, and the handwriting and idiosyncratic spelling are exactly the same as is found in Heneage Finch’s contemporary letter to William Courten about Athenian coins. From the general approach and content, I would think that Courten was also the intended receipient of this letter. (If so, that would confirm the date as 1700, rather than 1702, although there is, of course, the danger of circularity.)' (Burnett 2020b, p. 1031 n. 224) (en)

References

  1. ^  Evelyn, John. 1697. Numismata. A Discourse of Medals, Antient and Modern. Together with Some Account of Heads and Effigies of Illustrious, and Famous Persons, of Whom We Have no Medals Extant and of the Use to Be Derived from Them. To Which is Added a Digression concerning Physiognomy. London: for Benjamin Tooke.
  2. ^  Nichols, J. (1817-1858) Illustrations of the Literary History of the Eighteenth Century, 8 vols, London.
  3. ^  Mackenzie, K.R.H. (1852) 'Inedited letter of John Finch', Notes and Queries VI, pp. 336-7
  4. ^  Smyth, W.H. (1856) Descriptive catalogue of a cabinet of Roman family coins belonging to his Grace the Duke of Northumberland.
  5. ^  Burnett, Andrew M. (2020), The Hidden Treasures of this Happy Land. A History of Numismatics in Britain from the Renaissance to the Enlightenment, BNS Special Publ. No 14 = RNS Special Publ. No 58, London, Spink & Son.